Shayne and I Show
Shayne and I Show
Join Shayne—a sarcastic, heavy metal-loving, coffee-fueled Gen X er —and his best friend Max, a married 40-something with a house full of dogs and cats, as they dive into a grab bag of random topics. You never know what you're going to get from episode to episode, and that's part of the fun (and our charm). It's a podcast about nothing that somehow makes you think about something.
April 17, 2026

Three Fun Facts About The Satanic Panic

Three Fun Facts About The Satanic Panic
Shayne and I Show
Three Fun Facts About The Satanic Panic

: In this episode, Shayne and Max dive into the creaks and groans of getting older—balancing the wisdom of middle age with the physical reality of a slowing internal clock. Then, the duo pivots to the 1980s Satanic Panic, exploring the cultural chaos of backmasking, D&D hysteria, and the strange legacy of urban legends. ITS The Podcast About Nothing that makes you think of something!

0:26 Hey, welcome back to the Shane and I show my name is Shane. My name is Max and satin sheets provide poor traction They do. Yeah They're cool to look at though. They're cool to look at and you know, very comfy. Yeah, and I You know, every now and then you'll be like in Target or wherever satin sheets are being sold. I don't know. I don't go sheet shopping. I just, this has happened to me more than once where I'm with a girl and we're in a store and they're like, Ooh, satin sheets. We should get some satin sheets. I think everybody does that. Yeah. And everybody makes that mistake. And they use them like once and they realize it's too slippery and they never use them again. It's fucking slippery. You can't. And then you have satin sheets sitting in your closet for like years. Yeah. And I'll, yeah, it's no good for. Or what you can do is you can like use them on your guests. When your guests come over, if you're fancy and you have a guest room. Yeah. Be like, good luck. Good luck. Yeah, there you go. Anyway, this is a podcast about nothing. That makes you think of something. And hey, it's been a minute. Yeah, it has. We did one episode last month. Yeah. We used to say this was the bi -weekly -ish podcast. I think it's going to be the bi -monthly -ish podcast, maybe. Kind of. It's the Whenever We Feel Like podcast. Hey, how about that? It's The Shane and I Show. It's the Whenever We Feel Like it podcast. Is it a podcast about nothing? That makes you think of something. Yeah. So we're here. We're recording. Damn. It's been a minute.

1:51 It has been a minute. Yeah. We were going to record last week, but I had my sync fiasco happen. You did. And honestly, I would have struggled with it because my leg was hurting so much. So what happened with your leg? All right, so I... It was sore, so I used a theragun on it. Right. Which you should. Yeah, which you should. But I overdid it. Like, I really pounded the shit out of it. You pounded the shit out of it? Yeah. And then, and I did that twice in one day. Yeah, that's not good. Yeah, that's not good. And the next day I woke up and it was just fucking... Dude, getting old. Yeah, man We were talking about that yesterday. Like I had I had this experience a couple last week or I Have fucking I didn't realize that bad knees Mm -hmm, like I can go and squat some heavy weights and like not have a problem. My knees don't hurt and nothing like that Yeah, my dog is a little hyperactive. Right?

2:49 Yeah by little I mean, she's a lot hyperactive She's an energetic dog. Yeah, and so I decided like last week like okay, maybe if I sprint with her that might help her mellow out, right? And so like every like 20 feet we do like sprints, wind sprints. And it was fine during the time. And I felt that like the last time we were coming back and we did one more sprint and I felt my knee twitch a little bit. And I was just like, fuck. And I was thinking in my head, right? I was thinking in my head, I'm like, this dog, because the one thing I despise about all encompassing working out. Right? Because I pretty much love all encompassing working out. All right. But there's one thing in working out that I hate.

3:30 Yep. And that's running. It's running. I can't, for all my life, I've been a terrible runner. Don't like it. It's not my cup of tea. Me too. And I actually, I was on the cross -country team in high school. I really gave it my best shot. It is not for me. Me and running have never gotten along, right? But I was only doing it for this dog and I'm thinking when I'm running, I'm like, if this dog turns me into a runner, I'm going to be pissed. I'm going to be pissed if this dog turns me into a runner. Well, or you might just be a runner who enjoys running. But I don't enjoy it. Well, then it wouldn't turn you into a runner. No. But anyway, so since then, my knee's been fucked. Uh -huh. Not fucked. I mean, it hurts. Like, if I step on it, if I bend it and go upstairs, it hurts when I go up the stairs.

4:18 So when you do regular knee stuff, it hurts. But it didn't hurt the other day when I was squatting. And I was squatting pretty heavy. Yeah. Right? But as soon as I took my knee pads off and I started walking back to my car, guess what? Yeah. It started hurting. Yeah, the knee, like your car, it has a bunch of different gears. Yeah. I mean, that's not, that's, that's just kind of a, a metaphor. Right. It has a bunch of different gears and, and so the squatting gear is still in good shape. Right. But one of those gears or two of those gears. Right. So what I started doing for myself, I started using that Roman icy hot shit. Oh yeah, man. Dude, two days later, I'm pretty much good. Kira uses that stuff. And she likes it. Yeah, I used it on my little knee area, and you could feel it get hot, and then got it cold, and now it's fine. That's good.

5:10 And I used it this morning once, so I figure I'll use it tonight when I go to sleep. But getting old, dude. Getting old sucks, man. I'm glad I'm not one of those guys that wakes up and just fucking injures my back by getting out of bed. I know you dude I fucking one time I was in the shower and I sneezed right like while I was washing my hair right and I fucking like I fucked my back for two weeks if my back was fucked never had cuz I sneezed in the shower washing never had that experience before where I'm like I know people that have like you and other people that are old like me and you yeah, but they just do something I know a guy that he walked out of his house went down to walk down his porch and fucking shattered his ankle damn, yeah But he was also like 300 something pounds. Well, that'll, yeah, that'll, that's just, that's so much wear and tear that eventually it fucking goes bust.

5:59 But it's just like, dude, like I know how I'm pretty, I know how to take care of myself pretty well. As far as like, I don't get injured when I lift and like, I don't get sore too much. Like I get sore, but it's not like horrible to where I'm dying. But this knee thing just brought it all back to me that I was old. Yeah, no, I know what you mean. I'm just like, dude, it's just a ray. I did four wind sprints. And I'm just like, dude, I hate running. I hate running. And your knee decided to make a statement that you weren't going to be doing that anymore. Yeah, yeah. And I could remember when I used to do CrossFit. We'd had to run all the time and I fucking hated it back then too. And I'd always get like the back of my calf. I'd always pull something in the back of my calf. And I'd have to, dude, it was bad. Like, I just couldn't run.

6:50 I'm like, I've never been a runner. Yeah. So. I used to be able to sprint just fine. Right. I did a lot because I was on the lacrosse team. Right. I could out sprint any, well, I could out endurance sprint anyone on the lacrosse team. I wasn't the fastest, but I could. Right. I could keep sprinting all day long. And it's just weird. It is. It's just weird getting old. It sucks. I fucking, I hurt my leg. two weeks and two days ago. And it's, and it still hurts. It's, it's literally a pain in my ass. Yeah. That's where most of the pain is at this point. It's mostly gone away, but my ass is still sore. Is that where it is? The back of a hammy? So it's, it's the, it's the back of the hammy and the gluteus on the, on the right side. It's just my right ass cheek. Everything around there hurts. You sure you weren't doing some heavy bondage? I was not doing any heavy bondage. And the crazy thing, like, I heard it two weeks and two days ago. And it still hurts. Yeah, it takes a long time to heal when you're an old man and you don't do nothing. I'm 40 years old, which is not old by any means, but 20 -year -old me... would have been good as new in three days. Dude, 20 -year -old you wouldn't... Probably wouldn't even got hurt to begin with. But you wouldn't even...

8:11 Even if you were hurt, you'd be like, I'm okay. Honestly, 20 -year -old me would not have... I would have been too inebriated to actually feel the pain, and I would have done something horrible and made it way worse. So I'm glad it didn't happen to 20 -year -old me. Man, when I... But see, at least you're not one of those people that deny that you're in pain. You know those people that deny stuff? Like if you're in pain or something like that. I was thinking about this the other day, speaking about one of our friends. Yeah. He doesn't like it when I name him on the podcast anymore, so I'm not gonna name him on the podcast. Okay. But you remember when he got all super depressed, and we would call him and be like, dude, what are you doing? Yeah. So I remember one time I had this full conversation with him, right? Yeah.

9:00 I'm like, dude, what are you doing? Why don't you go to a doctor? Why don't you go to a psychiatrist or something? Maybe get some help or something like that. And he's like, oh, no, they're just going to give me medication. They're going to tell me what I already know, that I'm already depressed. I'll just finish this season of Star Trek Next Generation. It'll be cool. It'll be cool. It'll be cool. And then he decides he's going to smoke pot to get over the depression. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, so medication medication. Yeah, exactly in a different way But if you're built like us is that you don't use that stuff as medically provided That's the thing I've thought about this man. I was like thinking about this I'm glad I never tried doing medical pot Yeah, I also never tried the medical pot thing, but it was readily available where I will see that's that's the thing It's readily available to me, but I'm like I know how I would be with it, because I remember when I was trying to quit drinking on my own. Yeah. I was trying to quit getting loaded on my own. And all I would do is smoke pot, smoke dope, smoke pot. I sound like a fucking old man when I say dope. Yeah. All I would do is smoke pot, right? Whippersnappers smoking dope. Smoking that dope. Smoking that. Smoking that. Smoking the reefers. Devil's lettuce. Devil's lettuce. Devil's lettuce. Got me. So I smoked the devil's lettuce. I like the devil's lettuce better. That's a good one. I like that too. So I smoked the devil's lettuce, right? And I went from like casually doing it to like all the time.

10:26 Like I was fucking stoned all the time. Yeah. Just to keep me away from... from a drink, right? Yeah. And it's just like, I know that if somebody's like, if somebody puts it in my little fucking head and I'm not right with myself, they're like, oh, dude, that little knee injury, if you, you know, if you smoke a little pot or whatever, it'll, it'll fucking go away. And if I'm like not in the right frame of mind, I could be like, you know, you're, you're probably right. Yeah. And I came close like once there was once where I was not sleeping well. Yeah. And I'm passing by a dispensary and like, I bet if I go in there. I can find something in there that'll help me sleep dude I don't know if you know this and and this is a good thing actually because it'll it'll like it'll put a hiccup in any like fucking like impulsive like fuck it I'm gonna go give it a shot right kind of thing but dispensaries dude you got a fucking register and show ID and fill out a form just to get in the door yeah well I didn't go I just was passing by it and the thought entered my head it was like I bet if I get some medical marijuana I bet if I get some of that medical devil's lettuce, I'd be able to sleep. I bet you would, too. And the way I was starting to convince myself of it, I was just like, that's not good. So luckily I know what to do when those thoughts come up, and it didn't happen. But just like entertaining the thought wasn't like, oh, it'll help me sleep.

11:50 The entertaining thought went from, oh, it'll help me sleep to, I could do it all the fucking time and it would be okay. Like within an instant. Yeah, like it was like, oh it helped me like I remember I'm driving past the dispensary. I see it I think one of the pictures so showed something like it could help me sleep and the person in the picture is like all peacefully sleeping and I'm like Yes, it could help me sleep. And then as soon as I said, yes, it could help me sleep I was like, yes, and I can do it all the time. I'm like, nope Yeah, no Because I remember being when I was when I was stoned all the time. Yeah. No me too, man It was not fun. I ate a lot. Oh, yeah, it's good to eat. I mean, music can be better sometimes. Right. It's enjoyable stuff, but it also is, yeah, can lead to bad places if you are inclined towards compulsive drug use. Yeah, I am very compulsive with that stuff. Oh, me too, man. I started drinking regularly to try to get a control of my pot smoking. Right.

12:56 So you did the opposite of what I did. Yeah. And lo and behold, that did not work out well for me at all. I was better off a pothead, but you know. So anyway, I got a new segment I want to try. Yeah. We talked about it. I want to call it. You ready for the intro? Let's hear it. Let me clear my throat. You ready? Here it goes. Cow Fart Surprise. Yep. Three random facts. So not Cal Farts Supremes. No, it's three random facts. Three random facts. All right. So are the facts random in that they're like totally unrelated or? No, they're random about one particular topic. So three facts about a random topic. Yeah.

13:38 Okay. Three facts about a random topic. Three random facts. Sounds better. It does. I feel like it's misleading. It's not misleading. Let's do it. Let's do it. So, I thought about doing three facts about, three random facts about baseball. Wait, wait, wait. You said it. That's the name. Three facts. Yeah. Okay. Sorry. Okay. So, let me change it. Let me go back. Rewind. New segment for Shane and I show. Yeah. Three facts. You know, that doesn't sound right. That sounds better. Wait. Try this. Try this. little alliteration, three fun facts. Okay. Yeah. Here we go. All right. New segment for Shade of Night Show. Three fun facts. Doesn't quite work with the way you said it, but I think that would be the three fun facts. Three fun facts. All right, let's do it. Okay, so I was gonna do baseball since it's baseball season. Yeah, hey. And then I got something better, because I remember when I was a kid in the eighties. Mm -hmm. We're going to do three facts about the Satanic Panic. Oh, shit.

14:47 Old school. Yeah. All right. The Satanic Panic, in case you didn't know, was a big thing in like 85, 86, 87, 88. Yep. That time frame. It never entirely went away. No, it's still going around. In some communities, it's still big. You'll see in these three facts how ridiculous it was. All right, let's hear it. All right? Yeah. And you can just riff if you want. All right. OK, the first one. Yeah. The P &G logo panic. The P &G logo. P &G. Like Procter & Gamble? Yep, that's what it is. All right. Wait, don't they make cereal? Yep, you gotta listen. All right. You think cancel culture is new? Cancel culture is new. In the 1980s, Procter & Gamble had to change their 100 -year -old logo because people thought the man in the moon had 666 hidden in his beard.

15:39 A rumor spread that the CEO had the CEO confess to being a Satanist on Donahue, a show he never even appeared on. P &G eventually sued for liable, but the logo was already a goner. Could you imagine? Like, people make a big deal. Like, they're like, oh, I could see it in his beard! It's in his beard! Can I imagine? Yeah. Have you been on the internet lately? Yeah, but this is before, like, the internet, dude. This is the 80s. Do you know how hard? Like, and it's super easy these days to, like... cause some chaos on the internet and get somebody canceled. In the 80s, that shit was hard. Every time I go on Instagram, because it knows I love this shit, there's somebody showing me a picture of a logo or something and there's a goddamn some crazy symbol hidden in it that means everything. Right. Yeah. There's all kinds of shit like that. But, yeah, I mean, it was hard to get enough people to where the guy... Like, to even have the myth going around that the CEO confessed to being on Donahue saying he was a Satanist. Right. And was this, like, this was probably before... No, this was before, like, DVR. Yeah. So you couldn't just be like, no, go watch the episode. It's like, check it out on YouTube. I didn't say it. Yeah, you couldn't do that. It was like, enough people... Like, the guy had to come out and say, no, that's not true. Yeah. And by that point, people didn't believe him. Yeah, no, I get it. How do you prove

17:11 it? They're like, dude, you're a Satanist. You were on Donahue. And they're like, nobody knows the episode. And nobody knows what the episode is. The prank guy from Proctor and Gamble being on Donahue. OK, number two. Ready? Number two. The Smurfs, the tiny blue menace. Hell, yeah. If you grew up in the 80s, your parents might have burned your Smurfs. Why? because a tiny blue guy in a red hat doing alchemy was considered a gateway to the occult. There was even a popular urban legend that Smurf dolls would come to life at night and bite children. Apparently, being three apples tall was the perfect height for a demonic minion. The perfect height for a demonic minion is three apples tall. Three apples tall.

18:09 They can... They're... They're... They're... That gives them the greatest opportunity to serve Satan. Being three apples tall. Yeah, to serve Satan, and I can get where they're coming from. I can't wait to be a cult. Little blue guys are a gateway to the cult. But I can get it if you ever watch the fucking Smurfs episode. Yeah, no, I get that too. It's very culty. a bit and it makes no sense. Right. I mean, their, their economy is based on smurf berries. What if the smurf, the other, the other one I got from the smurf is what if the smurf berries were drugs? What if the smurf berries were drugs? They had to be drugs, right? That would make more sense than them just being cold. Yeah, it would. Like if they were, they were three apple high drug peddlers. Yeah. I, I actually have a smurf theory.

19:01 Right. It's not a conspiracy theory. I just feel like this kind of tracks for the Smurfs. I think this is like the hidden truth of the Smurfs. Like, so... Lay it on me. All right. Supposedly, like, Papa Smurf was like the respected, you know, elder, and supposedly Smurfette was kind of a fun side character that they had around. Yeah. I think Smurfette was actually the ringleader. And all the Smurfs were her, her like... Her husband's right and she was running like a cult right that sold drugs and and and forced their people to use drugs that's how she that's how she was able to get like like a hundred and twenty husbands and and the old guy just had no clue and And everybody just like just went along with it But did Papa Smurf have a clue? No, but a lot, you know, here's the thing, people would lick his ass. Right. But I think Papa Smurf probably approved of the Smurf berries. Yeah. So that's their economy. He would have had to approve that since he's the oldest guy in the village or whatever.

20:13 Is he or is he just somebody who used way too many Smurf berries? He could have used way too many Smurf berries. I think maybe they were a drug peddling cult. Yeah. You ever, you ever see like a 30 year old person who looks to be about 82. Yeah. Just fucking squeaking out of their mind. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Or you see people that you knew before they moved to LA and then you see them like two years after they moved to LA and their fucking soul is gone. Yeah. You ever seen that in somebody? No, but I believe it. I've seen it, dude. L .A. is a kind of horrible... It is? Yeah. Like, dude, like, you lose yourself really easy in L .A. I don't even like driving.

20:57 Well, of course I don't like driving through L .A. Right. I do my best to avoid it when I can. Right. Okay, you ready? Mm -hmm. You ready for the third one? Yeah. The backmasking myth. The backmasking myth? Yep. I don't... Ready? Yeah. Okay. The panic turned every teenager's bedroom into a D .Y .I. exorcism. People started spinning records like Led Zeppelin's Stairway to Heaven backwards, convinced they'd hear hidden prayers to the devil. It's a classic case of audio... pareidolia? Pareidolia. Pareidolia? Yeah, if you listen to enough shit backwards, eventually some of it is gonna sound like something regular, yeah. Right. If you... If you tell someone they're about to hear, they're about to hear Sweet Satan, their brain will turn, will turn a backward guitar riff into a demonic shout out every single time. Yeah. Yeah. It will. Yeah.

21:56 If fucking that's just the way your brain works. Yeah. Yeah. If you, if you direct it towards making a connection, it'll make that connection. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So I've heard that about a while. So I heard. Judas Priest once had to go to court because two guys killed themselves. They're listening to the song with stained glass or broken stained glass or something like that. And they listened to it backwards and supposedly it said, just do it, do it, shoot yourself. But it's not true. Right. They won the court case because the families wanted to sue him for like 12 million bucks or something, which back in the 80s is a lot of money. Yeah, man. Ozzy got sued for somebody, some kid committed suicide after listening to who was a fan of Ozzy, right?

22:48 Suicide Solution. Suicide Solution, right, which is a great song. Yeah. And one I totally identify with, but it's not at all about suicide. And he won that case handily. Yeah, it's weird. It's weird when people do that with music where they think there's hidden messages in songs. I don't know. As a guy that was a kind of a musician, I say kind of because, you know, I did some stuff musically, but you never sit around in a recording studio and go, you know what we should do, guys? You know what we should do? Hide satanic shit in the song? We should hide satanic messages in our songs. Here's the difference between you and Judas Priest. Right. Right. Supposedly. Supposedly. Right. Let's make sure we don't get a lawsuit here. Here's the difference between you and them.

23:33 They're Satanists. So when they record an album, that is what they do. Yeah. And I remember back in the day where everybody, it's so silly now when you think about like most Led Zeppelin lyrics were about the fucking, what's that? But sex. No, they weren't about but sex. A few of them were. A few of them were. But a lot of them were also about the hobbit. Yes, right. Yes, and it's weird that people would get like stairway to heaven is Come is all about the hobbit. Is it really? Well, that's there at heaven. Which one is it? I know the one you're thinking of ramble on Maybe he's a ramble on that. I'm thinking Because he mentions. Yeah, it's really Yeah Ramblin' on is all about the Hobbit. And people used to think that song was a Satanist song. Like, it's Led Zeppelin, dude. Like, you turn on a Led Zeppelin song like Black Dog or something, where could you find some Satanist stuff in Led Zeppelin?

24:27 Like... I don't think you can. You know, a group that used to freak people out, Black Sabbath. Right. And if you listen to the lyrics, like, their shit is actually shockingly optimistic and upbeat and sometimes even spiritual. Right. And it's all very, like, fucking peace and love and, you know, all that. Yeah, because I remember, I can remember when people, like, used to think Kiss was a Satanic band. Kiss. Kiss. And that's silly. Yeah. I mean, they had songs like Love Gun. How is Love Gun a Satanic song? I feel like Love Gun could be a term for one's... Well, that's what it's about. Yeah. And Satan loves Penises.

25:16 Ask any—ask anyone. Ask any Satanist? Ask any—well, don't ask a Satanist. Ask any Christian, and they'll tell you that one of the things Satan loves most of all is penises. Is there a theory that— Satan wants penises everywhere. Isn't there a theory that Satan will bite your penis off if you masturbate too much? I've never heard that one. And I'm glad I haven't, because it might have brought some joy from me in my life. Satan will just come out of your bedroom, lower, and bite your dick off. God damn. Satan will... I've heard you might go blind. I've heard that too. I've heard you might grow hair on your palms.

25:57 Yeah, all of which are not true. Yeah. All of which are not true. These are theories that I have tested extensively, and I can disprove them. Oh, dude, I'd love to say... Loved it. It was the satanic panic of the 80s because I could remember like if you were all black Yeah, and you listen to heavy metal music. You were automatically didn't matter what kind of person you were Yeah, you were a Satanist. You were a Satanist played play Dungeons and Dragons. You're a Satanist Yeah, yeah, you played the devil's game. Yeah, you smoked the devil's lettuce. Mm -hmm, right? I can remember yeah, it was it was a crazy time. But if if you go online You will find that there is currently something very much like the satanic panic in a borderline mainstream way going around on the internet. Yeah. Like today. Really? Has everybody seen Republicans or Satanists? No.

26:56 You got to think about the demographic, right? The people who really bought into the satanic panic were the first, the religious people who believed in Satan. Right. And then secondly, the people who were afraid of new things and change and all that, i .e. conservative folk. Yeah, suburban people in the 80s. Yeah. So it's conservative folk that it appeals to. There's a lot less of it now than there was a few years ago. I'll tell you that. And it's because... The the satanic stuff they they they were like especially if you go to like look back to the QAnon the Satan shit and Worshippers and lizard people and all that remember that and there were like millions of people who really believed in this shit And they also really believed all sorts of stuff that in the fullness of time proved to be Completely false right and and so enough of them have looked at that and been like meh, yeah Yeah, you'd be like, ah, maybe I was wrong on that. Yeah. Maybe maybe I was wrong on that.

27:59 Yeah. But turns out there might actually be something to this pizza gate thing. Yeah. Pizza gate. Yeah. Remember pizza gate? No. Yeah. Twenty sixteen or twenty seventeen. Some dude goes into a pizzeria in D .C. shoots the place up. Oh, yeah. I remember this. Yeah. Because he was convinced it was like a front for a for a child. trafficking for sex and blood sacrifice thing. Right. And it was just a pizza shop. Yeah. But then it turns out like, like Jeffrey Epstein and some of his people, right. They used to in their communications, they would refer to pizza when they were talking about. Oh, yeah. It's crazy. That whole thing is crazy too. Dude, that whole thing is the Jeffrey Epstein thing as wild as it is. Nothing about it surprised me. Right. Not a single thing about it. See, that's the thing. Like, it doesn't surprise me either. They're, like, rich people that need some way to get their rocks off in private. Yeah.

29:04 If you can afford to do anything at all, right? So eventually you try everything. And, you know, the way the human condition is, is if you have it, it's no longer good enough. You want the next thing. Right. So eventually, some percentage of people with the resources will go towards torture, rape, and murder. Let me try. Let me try. Let me try. I'm so rich and I have so much money. Let me try some torture, rape and murder. It's basically a law of nature and it's something that you see throughout history and to think that this has gone on through all human history, but it's not going on today. Come on, man. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. I just think it's funny that you have nothing better to do. You're so rich. You're so wealthy, you have nothing better to do, but you're gonna go to some island. Hey, man, if I was a billionaire, I would love to go to some island on a private jet and fucking lounge and go snorkeling. I don't like snorkeling, but, you know, do that or whatever. Everything but the fucking rapey stuff. Yeah, the rapey stuff ain't cool. Yeah, that ain't cool. So I'd probably go to some other island. That said, I had a thought.

30:19 I had an idea. Right. today. And the idea was this, I bet at some point the government is going to auction off Epstein Island. Probably. And I bet you could get that place for a song. I bet you could. Yeah. But then you got to meet the guy that bought Epstein's Island. That's like in the same boat as the guy that paid like a million dollars for the Wu -Tang album that nobody else got. Yeah. It is, and maybe worse, but here's the thing. Here's the thing. Fuck it, because I'll just hang out on my island, where I won't do awful shit, right? I'll be like, yeah, awful shit happened here, but I don't believe in ghosts, and so fuck it. But you'd have to probably do some, like, you'd have to probably do some digging around, finding, like... taking out all the fucking cameras and all that shit that's on that island. You know what I mean?

31:17 Because they probably left everything pretty much intact, I would imagine. I bet it's abandoned. I bet what's going to happen is being that it's abandoned right now, and everything's kind of left there, some YouTube dude is going to figure out how to go and explore that island. All you need is a boat, man. Yeah. A boat and a dream. A boat and a dream. And you can get there and fucking... Be the first YouTube guy to explore Epstein's Island. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if they do like some regular patrols by there just to make sure people aren't doing that. Yeah. Because there's an island on Disney and in Disney World? Disney World, yeah, that's the one in Florida. Uh -huh. That closed down years ago.

31:59 Yeah. It was like a ride or so. It was like a zoo. They had animals and shit And you have people exploring that shit all the time now You can't explore it because they have they're doing some kind of secret build there All right, but like a few years ago back in the pandemic like all these dudes all these fools were going over there and exploring this Yeah, so anyway, I fucking love exploring that and shit. Yeah. Yeah, I like it like I love I Would be a day exploring that opinion malls and shit. I'd be way into it. Yeah all that said I would love, it would, I think it would be so cool to have Epstein's Island and, and if you could get it for like $8, right? Eight dollars. Yeah. And then it's just like a project. I'll tear it down to the studs and you know, put in fresh shit. You know how much shit you would get for that? Yeah, I do. But then I'll, I'll invite people over. I'll invite people over, but you'd have to make it if you invited people over, it couldn't be rich people.

32:56 Like you'd have to make a difference somehow. Make a difference? Yeah, like if you just do the same thing that was already done on the island, you're just another rich asshole. I would not be doing the same thing that was done on that island, thank you very much. I could invite only billionaires and find plenty of things to do other than what was done on that island. Right. I think on that note, I think it's time to end the episode. Yeah, I'll sign. That was a good episode. I don't think I am friends with any billionaires. Yeah, either am I. But maybe one way to become friends is to get Epstein Island. Right, that's it. It's, hey, you go up to him and you're like, hey, dude, I have my own island. Not even that. I get it. And then they'll hear about it. And somebody will be like, hey, man, you down for a pizza party? You're like, well, no. And I'll be like, OK, let's forward this to the FBI. Anyway, that's it. If you listen to the episode all the way through, we appreciate you. If you like our stuff, man, leave us a review wherever you listen to this podcast. It really helps us out. Give us a four -star review five -star you write a little thing. Maybe you don't like how we talk. I don't know Maybe you like our little jokes Maybe you don't maybe whatever whatever just write something. It's just a review.

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